From Rihanna’s quasi–rolling papers to Father John Misty’s tarot cards to a SZA air freshener, here are some unique gift ideas for the superfan in your life. Lol. Alcohol and drugs were destroying the band from within: drummer Peter Criss had been replaced by Eric Carr, and guitarist Ace Frehley’s behaviour was becoming ever more erratic. that were coming out around this time. Everyone hates Music from The Elder. Mr. Blackwell) there are moments where Kiss are way ahead of their time with sounds and styles that didn’t get embraced until years later with the emergence of grunge and 90’s alt-rock. 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Nasty bass, that song’s cool. Hallo und Herzlich Willkommen auf unserer Webpräsenz. Unsere Redaktion wünscht Ihnen zuhause nun viel Vergnügen mit Ihrem Kiss the elder! Kiss the elder - Der absolute TOP-Favorit . Pepper’s… Instead, it was their Mr. Roboto and nearly destroyed the band - and the brand. I’m not sure what to say to this for Gene and Paul. It bores me, but yes, the bass is nasty…I will give you that. 3 - The songs are a bit lacklustre. Take it away from the rest of their back catalogue and I believe that it stands alone and has stood the test of time more than most of their 'classic' albums. “They are benevolent, but committed to the balance of opposites. Every week, Album of the Week Club listens to and discusses the album in question, votes on how good it is, and publishes our findings, with the aim of giving people reliable reviews and the wider rock community the chance to contribute. Odyssey returns us to the land of cheese with a song that wouldn’t be out of place on Rocky Horror, but sadly this isn’t meant to be a joke. This is a ballad, plain and simple. I wouldn’t say they’re unlistenable, but they lack the oomph that makes you want to crank up your system and blast them. A fair review John. Some of the songs could have been classics if the pompous and/or hard-to-decipher lyrics were replaced, such as The Oath, Only You, I, and Just a Boy." It’s a lot darker than their usual upbeat party veneer and closer to how dark I always though they looked. Ezrin was the right man to produce. Escape from the Island is an instrumental track that focuses heavily on Frehley’s guitar work, with some decent tub thumping tribal rhythm from Eric Carr. This album is completely different from KISS' older albums. View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 2008 Paper Sleeve, SHM-CD CD release of (Music From) The Elder on Discogs. Odyssey Punkte: 8 / 10. He had no say in the matter of the album as he would always lose the vote 2-1…Gene & Paul vs Ace. From the opening Fanfare with its cheesy medieval tone we move to what can only be described as a pomp rock song Just a Boy which is admittedly alright. Are we now doing rock opera, without the songwriting skills, self-awareness, and intellectual firepower of Pete Townshend? ᐅ Vergleichstabelle 11/2020 ᐅ Umfangreicher Test ⭐TOP Waren ️ Aktuelle Angebote ᐅ Sämtliche Vergleichssieger ⭐ Direkt vergleichen! They were no where to be found. But, not only did Kiss lack the musical ability of Pink Floyd, they also didn't work out that 1981 was not the time and place for a confusing, prog rock album about medieval times. Gene Simmons and actually Lou Reed…yes, that Lou Reed. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Falsetto is a time-honoured tradition, even in rock, but geez, Paul. The bassist claims that a movie deal was close to being made, with actors signed up for key roles. Niks concept diepliggende gedachte. Before I began writing this review, several summaries were swimming around in my head. Paul Stanley gets to be the diva on centre stage as he hits the falsettos in the chorus. This was a concept album, remember, so the actors were brought in to speak dialogue that would link the story together, but was nixed and only used for the very last song. Shane Hall: A few of my high school friends were among that "small minority of diehard Kiss fanatics" who absolutely loved this album -- for reasons I did not fathom then and still don't. But I love it being Ace and Eric having fun playing together. You have to give credit to Eric Carr here for playing the drums very close to how Peter Criss would have played the song, if Criss could play drums properly to begin with. I’ve never heard of this album! Find album reviews, stream songs, credits and award information for Music from "The Elder" - Kiss on AllMusic - 1981 - By the end of 1980, Kiss knew that their next… I even kind of liked Just A Boy. Well done John. They set out do make a 'grown up' album, with no teen anthems and innuendo, which is why a lot of Kiss fans hated it. They sound like Paul Stanley and Gene Simmons songs, but they don’t make you want to get up and dance or rock out. Mark Burd: Wow. To me, Music from “The Elder” sounds like any other Kiss album, but with less (or no) party in the songs, which may be its biggest pitfall. It just sounds like more Kiss music, which like usual, is okay at best with moments of excellence sprinkled in sparingly. I give them props for thinking outside the box, execution wasn’t perfect. Escape From The Island When they re-worked it for the album, Lou Reed and Gene stepped in and changed up some of the lyrics and helped get it to its final version. More bands should do the same. Pleasant enough, decent rock. A review of the 1981 release from KISS - Music from The Elder. Er sollte beim Kiss the elder Test beherrschen. Die Aussagekraft des Vergleihs ist sehr relevant. I Lyrics: 9. Ach, shoot me down if you like. Mr Blackwell has an ominous low register opening but squanders its mood on a sleazy groove number that doesn’t hit the mark. Feb 5, 2015 - KISS' 1981 concept album "Music From The Elder" bombed when it was first released, but has developed a cult following over time. I bought Unmasked myself, but missed most of that 3-4 year post Alive II window until I bought Lick It Up on cassette. This is song #10 and it is called “Odyssey”. I also really liked I and The Oath, both providing that classic Kiss sound! By 1981, Kiss were in chaos. They made a handful of appearances to promote, but that was it. Business manager Howard Marks refused to allow his company's name to appear in the liner notes. Dark Light Lyrics: 5. The bad reception this album received was unfortunate. Regardless of it being Kiss. Fan reaction to the album was equally harsh, while critical reaction was comparably positive. I like the album a lot. It may have helped slightly. Then the disco song. Gregorian chanting monks (why not?) Musical themes from Just a Boy are revisited to lend some credence to the idea of this album being a cohesive piece of rock operatics. By doing it this way, you completely lose sight of the concept album as now it is just an album with no storyline in proper order to follow (not that you could follow it anyway). On a positive note, A World Without Heroes is a great song but the rest of the album, besides a few cool riffs, is incredibly stupid and Kiss were trying too hard for a style of music they do not understand or suit. Mr. Blackwell is right as rain in that regard. As a matter of fact, this song is so special we also get to hear one of Paul Stanley’s few guitar solos. Another song that really sounds nothing like a Kiss song. Dark Light – Ace Frehley on vocals gives this a slightly Lou Reed sort of vibe. You might have been made for loving me, but the feeling is not mutual. Sadly, no Ace on this song as lead guitar is done by Paul. Vocally much superior to my expectations. This was the first album the band wasn’t featured in any of the packaging. I shifted loyalties to expanding my interest to other groups and began a life-long music affair with rock music. I think, with the original lineup, Gene Simmons generally accomplished his goal of creating the Beatles of hard rock. I am willing to bet it was left out of those sessions and just re-purposed with Dungeons and Dragons lyrics for this record. Fuck you, but not IRL. ), but it completely bombed upon release. At least Ace and Eric looked great. Music from "The Elder" is the ninth studio album released by American rock band Kiss on the Casablanca Records label in 1981. It wasn't great but I didn't see why there was so much hate for it. Imagine what The Elder could have been if Ace’s vision had been a bit more accepted! Kiss the elder - Unser Gewinner . The cover of Kiss’ epic folly Music From “The Elder” The story of The Elder, written by Simmons during a stay at the Beverly Hills Hotel, was allegedly a metaphor for good and evil.“The Elder are a life-form without body,” he explains. It sure ain’t fantastic, but it has its moments. It’s tradition. Time, almost 34 years now, has healed some of the wounds. So I knew this was going to be an interesting listen. Receive news and offers from our other brands? The fans hate it. John Davidson: I’ll be upfront and say I’ve never understood the fascination with Kiss. Scary. Please refresh the page and try again. Under the Rose Lyrics: 4. But when Bob came on board around March, talk started to change to maybe doing a concept album and Gene was immediately on board, Paul was somewhat, Eric was not thrilled about the direction, but he was thrilled about finally recording his first Kiss album. But even for that subculture, is this the soundtrack they needed? The thought of hard rock album wasn’t enough. I did the review of the original format I had when I was a kid so you could understand what the public got back in the day. Leave a review. Das Team hat im genauen Kiss the elder Test uns die empfehlenswertesten Artikel verglichen sowie die brauchbarsten Informationen aufgelistet. Pepper,” says Kiss bassist/vocalist Gene Simmons of his band’s greatest folly. If you haven’t heard it in awhile, check it out and spend some time with it and I think you might change your mind. Delete “Mr. But now that I have, I can say it is not as bad as its reputation. Do you like this album? A good 6 or 7 from me. The only thing was the album sleeve was actually a clear plastic sleeve with the Kiss information on it as seen in my copy below. The last track is truly the last track on both versions called “I”. This is not a Kiss sounding song at all and not sure how I would describe it. The song on its own is okay, but if listened to it in context of the story, I like this track as it is another menacing sounding Gene song. A sad and useless thing… Gene dons the big number regalia-dress and stands alone on centre stage; a single spotlight creating a haunting visual. Maybe you have taste and everyone else doesn’t. Great writing and research. As it turns out, the swan song of this record is a pretty decent collaboration between Gene and Paul trading vocals, and the inevitable Broadway chorus will send the dancers in, all decked out in Kiss make up, and with mini-Space Aces flying on strings across the back drop of an… island? Music From "The Elder" is het tiende album van de hardrockband Kiss.Het album verscheen op 10 november 1981 en werd geproduceerd door Bob Ezrin. Anyway, The Odyssey bravely follows unto the breach of the unbelievers, with dramatic hammered pianos, sweeping strings and a very important Paul Stanley once again as the Chief of Theatrical Operations. But Kiss wasn’t exactly that band. Thank you for signing up to Classic Rock. Ok, whatever. I am not sure why on Odyssey. It is a crime that they never played this song live. I is an anthem on par with many anthems written by them, but I would have preferred a guitar solo to the breakdown - are those handclaps, or what? The band’s late manager and its label hated it. Kiss Unmasked, released in the summer of 1980, was recorded with session drummer Anton Fig; Criss' permanent replacement, Eric Carr, joined the band in time for their 1980 world tour. It has that type of excitement attached to it. The Oath sounds like one of those killer heavy tunes they’d churn out on Creatures, but then the chorus (is that a chorus?) When Kiss premiered Music from "The Elder" for their management and record company in October 1981, the reaction was a mixture of confusion and resentment. They are trying to go and do this overblown, look how artistic we can be crap that fails on every level. I’m down, First of all, this line made me laugh out loud and I’m still smiling: “Apparently Mr. Blackwell is feeling well.” Yep that’s about as much as I get out of some of these lyrics too, especially when played in that incorrect running order. BA1 1UA. On first listen I knew it was kind of weird, but I still really enjoyed it. https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/kiss/music-from-the-elder-4 I'm letting the rest wash over me. “Every year we get requests for an Elder tour,” Simmons laughs. Music Reviews: Music from "The Elder" by KISS released in 1981 via Casablanca. Dark Light is Ace Frehley at his very best – perfect vocals for this song, with a great riff, that could have been the best track on his solo album a couple of years earlier. Secondly, and this was quite a glaring hole to me, most of the songs sound half finished and quite.. limited in composition, with some awful lyrics. I still play my original vinyl copy regularly. I'm pleasantly surprised to find that I still do , not sure about Mr Blackwell though! The band's stature was in jeopardy. Genre: Hard Rock. It’s more ELO on some songs. In the Know. I snagged the vinyl and added it to all my other Kiss albums. When he read Simmons’ short story, titled The Elder, Ezrin saw a chance to make another concept album like The Wall – “a big statement”, as he told the bassist. The album was intended to be the soundtrack to a movie - a movie which, due to the relative commercial failure of the album, was never made.We are now going to attempt to shoot this movie, Gene Simmons, Ace Frehley Paul Stanley Bob Ezrin Unlike some fans I was not turned off by the Dynasty and Unmasked albums. Some of us still say "Death to Disco". This is song four, but was supposed to be song #6 so again, all plot is lost. Again more like BOC than Kiss. Eric Walker: It’s a very un-Kiss-like album with the concept and all, but some good tunes. “When the album came out we were embarrassed,” says Simmons. Not a duffer in my book but I can see how it might have caused a bit of head scratching back in the day. And nice to see Eric get a moment as well. In conjunction with their month-long NovElder retrospective, KISS FAQ has issued an interview with Manhattan Model Shop's Bill Finneran, who discusses the creative process and construction of the door prop used for the album cover for KISS’ 1981 Music From The Elder… This album saw the band sink even lower. The song goes straight into “Under the Rose” which is another Gene song and is actually done the same way if you sequenced the album in the original format. Auf unserer Webseite lernst du alle markanten Unterschiede und wir haben viele Kiss the elder verglichen. 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I do however have a lot of friends who are very big Kiss fans and have played me their albums over the years. 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Bei uns finden Sie zu Hause absolut ausnahmslos die besten Produkte, die unseren enorm geregelten Maßstäben gerecht werden konnten. If it's a soundtrack where's the film? So, bring it on I said, sitting down with a big JD. Why should he go to hell? “It bombed,” Simmons says. Songs like Just A Boy, Odyssey, Only You, Under The Rose and A World Without Heroes still get me to this day. Enter Eric Carr. The Oath, World Without Heroes, Only You and Under The Rose. Die frühen 80`er Jahre waren keine leichte Zeit für die heißeste Band der Welt. The other week I started with Dynasty and went though the all the albums up to Hot In The Shade to give that time period another go. Why not indeed? I think it’s superb. The album’s lyrics describe the boy’s feelings during his journey and training, as he overcomes his early doubts to become confident and self-assured. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. As far as the story goes, it sounds like Ace is warning the Boy of the darkness that was to come. Yet their new songs are catchy, the performances respectable, and, despite its concept, Music from “The Elder” is better than anything that the group has recorded in years. As an individual track, not good at all. Damit Sie als Käufer mit Ihrem Kiss the elder am Ende auch zufriedengestellt sind, hat unser Team auch noch eine große Liste an weniger qualitativen Angebote im Test aus der Liste geworfen. Find album reviews, stream songs, credits and award information for Music from "The Elder" - Kiss on AllMusic - 1981 - By the end of 1980, Kiss knew that their next… Since no more Peter, his power was none. Is it some sort of attempt at Prog? I listened to the 1997 remastered version so, in theory, the story makes more sense... in theory. The bottom line is I can’t see how Paul and Gene ever thought this was a good idea. But the movie was never made, and the album was an overblown disaster.By 1981, Kiss were in chaos. This is your last Kiss Ace song until ‘Psycho Circus’ so you better enjoy it and enjoy it I do. Not much chance of this album staying on the rails. On November 1, link textKissFAQ, the self-described "most comprehensive and most informative KISS web site inhabiting the Internet," will launch NovElder, a month-long retrospective dedicated to the band's controversial 1981 concept album, "Music From The Elder". It is succinct enough to follow…The basic plot of “The Elder” involves the recruitment and training of a young hero (The Boy) by the Council of Elders who belong to the Order of the Rose, a mysterious group dedicated to combating evil. It has a wintry magical vibe to me. Startseite ... Review von BierBorsti. The Track Score is 7 out of 11 for a Score of 64% which is actually better than I would’ve expected from what I remember with this album. Sergio Mendoza Hochmann: It’s a good album, actually. Mr. Blackwell They brought in the American Symphony Orchestra and St. Robert’s Choir to record parts, they brought in actors to record voice-overs, they tried everything and experimented with so many styles and sounds. If Andrew Lloyd Webber could make millions, on cats singing show tunes, and The Who could puzzle together two rock operas… why not Kiss? Finale. Louder is part of Future plc, an international media group and leading digital publisher. That video, they used to call them promos before MTV. When they recorded the video for “A World Without Heroes”, the went ahead and did another one. hits with that damned Paul Stanley falsetto. Under the Rose again sounds nothing like Kiss. The best moments of the album are Ace Frehley’s contributions with the slamming Dark Light and rock-out instrumental Escape From The Island, which is especially discerning when you hear the stories about how Stanley and Simmons out-voted Frehley on most album-based decisions. There is a lot to like here and I will come back often. Die Qualität des Tests ist extrem relevant. Kiss – ‘Music From The Elder’ (1981) – Album Review (The Kiss Review Series) Published on October 15, 2020 October 15, 2020 by 2loud2oldmusic Kiss came off a very successful Australian Tour thanks to Unmasked and the song “Shandi” being huge hits in that country, but in the States, Kiss had floundered significantly. You can find a loyal geeky contingent online and in the darker regions of KISS-dom that sing its praises. Kiss – The Elder (). Then I remember them meeting the Phantom Of The Park and I guess it isn’t much of a surprise (though my six year old self thought that movie was the greatest thing ever). Any thought of understanding the concept is completely lost. Informationen zum Album (Music From) The Elder (1981) von KISS × MS.de. And we lost our minds.”. But these do not come close to offsetting tracks like Mr. Blackwell and World Without Heroes, which I just found unbearable. Het is het eerste album zonder Peter Criss, en met Eric Carr.. Er zijn drie singles van uitgebracht: A World Without Heroes, I en The Oath. (AllMusic), "What could be less promising at this stage of the game than a concept album by Kiss? Why this order? It seems vital to the story-line, but I forgot my 80’s Rock Opera Decoder Ring in my other Kiss lunch box, so we will unfortunately be none the wiser. I think we’ve long established that I am out of mind! Gene sings the last line of the song, and the music fades with the light. As a whole, it’s not good, but it’s got some good – even great – songs on it, if you can make it past the flutes and strings and Paul Stanley’s choirboy vocals. "It's certainly a shock when you first put it on," producer Bob Ezrin said of the LP back in 1981. Man, this is definitely not my uncle’s Kiss. And Ace, well Ace wasn’t happy at all. I recently bought Styx's Paradise Theatre which, I understand, sold shedloads: this album is easily on a par with it. Last song, I, starts as if Abba wrote a rock song. Mr. Blackwell Lyrics: Kiss Lyrics provided by SongLyrics.com. Check out our album review of Artist's Music From "The Elder" on Rolling Stone.com. I never went back and checked this one out, other than hearing/seeing the videos for A World Without Heroes and possibly I. When it comes to great bands, most acknowledged music experts don’t consider the merits of Kiss.When they do, it’s usually in tandem with the band’s marketing ability and the influence their music had on young kids. There was a movie script supposedly being done for this story concept and if it would’ve been done this would probably have been an action sequence with the boy escaping an island. Over time, the album has come to be regarded as a cult classic by certain Kiss fans. Hier bei uns wird hohe Sorgfalt auf eine faire Auswertung des Tests gelegt als auch der Kandidat zum Schluss durch die abschließenden Testnote bewertet. And the back cover was the rest of the door. Dynasty and Unmasked were pop rock schlock and no one seemed to have an irrational hatred of those two. So much so while the album was being recorded in Toronto and New York, Ace stayed at this house in Connecticut and did his parts in his studio and mailed them out when he was done. You get a shoddy story, dramatic elements, decent guitar and drum work, and a unique experience found in few other albums. Just a Boy Lyrics: 2. Kiss the elder - Bewundern Sie dem Sieger unserer Redaktion. But Music From “The Elder” is a good album. They should have let Ace rock it out a bit and encouraged his participation. Music from the Elder (German Version) Odyssey: The definitive examination of … Full credit to the band for trying something completely different, its certainly not as bad as I had expected and Ace Frehley in particular lays down some decent music. This was Gene’s album for sure. And third, a plus point, side two is actually not that bad, in places. Exit to the left. Now this is more like it. The Oath Lyrics: 7. “That was the one time I would say that Kiss succumbed to the critics,” he says. The song is very dark and a little morose while at the same time quite beautiful. The elder was gedoemd om te mislukken. I recommend Music From The Elder to non-KISS fans who enjoy concept albums like The Wall and Kilroy Was Here. (Trips on hem of dress - mumbles a curse.) There is a nice bass groove on it and Paul shares some vocals in it for a verse to tie in the storylines. That aside, I own Animalize, Lick it up, Dynasty and double platinum. Under The Rose Join the Album Of The Week Club on Facebook to join in. Kiss – ‘Music From The Elder’ (1981) – Album Review (The Kiss Review Series) Published on October 15, 2020 October 14, 2020 by 2loud2oldmusic Kiss came off a very successful Australian Tour thanks to Unmasked and the song “Shandi” being huge hits in that country, but in the States, Kiss had floundered significantly. His face would appear on the next two albums although he wouldn’t actually play any of those new songs. The band had to do something drastic, something big, something artistic. It just reinforced my loss of interest and relegation of the band to irrelevance. Ah, yes, the concept. In those years my pre-teen mind thought they could do no wrong. On the acoustic guitar is Eric Carr (and drums). Then comes the bass heavy, dark and actually awful song “Mr. Sorry, guys - if I want prog, I'll go for the real thing, like Nektar. I’m not sure what I can say about this track other than it is sung by Paul, has Allan Schwartzberg on drums and Tony powers on keyboards and is trying to be something it is really not. They get points for stepping out of their comfort zone and some of the songs are pretty good. Sorry guys, you did it to yourselves. I remember reading in a Dale Sherman book about that, and suddenly it all made sense. Eric wasn’t happy and Ace was miserable. Fanfare I don’t even know where this fucking story takes place. With the tempo changes in it, it is well composed but can’t really understand everything being said and the artistry that was meant is lost on me. Or mine, I suppose. The lead guitar on this is great and is actually Paul and not Ace. Fanfare opens up the album with a melodic little welcome intro, setting the stage for what is to come. A review of the 1981 release from KISS - Music from The Elder. Why???? KISS hates it. MUSIC FROM THE ELDER: Explaining the KISS Album Everyone Hates. The result was a dull mix of mediocre prog-rock that bears little resemblance to the quartet that gave us such iconic albums as Destroyer and Love Gun. The Boy is guided by an elderly caretaker named Morpheus. Bemerkung am Rande: „Music From „The Elder““ war das erste Kiss-Album, das keine Abbildung der Bandmitglieder am Cover zeigte. There are some cool vocal effects on it and it is another really great rock track on the album. And then, it all comes back to me. Nobody but me likes Odyssey!! The second side kicks of with the only U.S. single, “A World Without Heroes”. The reason? For a band like Kiss, image matters a lot. Talk about an album with a bad reputation! it’s not bad but I can understand why Kiss fans were confused, this sounds more like a Blue Oyster Cult album track. It was such a mish-mash of songs and most didn’t sound anything like Kiss. View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1981 Gatefold Vinyl release of (Music From) The Elder on Discogs. We are.) It is awful. Thanks. So can I step outside my perception of a Kiss album and listen to it like a new band? ( Log Out /  MUSIC FROM THE ELDER: Explaining the KISS Album Everyone Hates. More bizarrely, Seb Hunter, author of heavy metal memoir Hell Bent For Leather, is seeking funding to make his own movie of The Elder. Elder The Movie 30 years later the odyssey begins a Seb Hunter film, In 1981 the rock band KISS released a concept album entitled (Music From) The Elder. Damit Sie mit Ihrem Kiss the elder hinterher auch wirklich zufriedengestellt sind, hat unser Team an Produkttestern auch die ungeeigneten Produkte im Test rausgeworfen. Ace's presence is missed on Music From The Elder, and the concept is a bit hokey and ham-fisted but so are many concept albums. That's not to say that Elder doesn't have its moments. The Oath 1) It has both Paul and Gene singing and 2) It sounds like Kiss. Some albums are “lucky” and get two of them (not looking at you, Love Gun... much). I like how they tried to do something different and outside their comfort zone. Scott Spalding: Album starts off with a conventional Paul Stanley rocker, The Oath. The band’s late manager and its label hated it. On November 1, link textKissFAQ, the self-described "most comprehensive and most informative KISS web site inhabiting the Internet," will launch NovElder, a month-long retrospective dedicated to the band's controversial 1981 concept album, "Music From The Elder". Only You starts with a riff and then the bass kicks in. Fazit: Ich find’s zutiefst schade, dass Mr. Stanley und Herr Simmons nicht über ihren Schatten springen können und endlich mal ein paar Songs von diesem Album live wiedergeben. The one with the Demon singing a ballad about a world without heroes. There were the jokey ones (“And you thought Gene Simmons was overblown…”), the serious, analytical ones (“KISS go heavy metal and rock opera all at once with disastrous results”) and the critical ones (“All the confusion of KISS’s early 80’s career made into music”). Ace shined the little he was on it. Discover releases, reviews, credits, songs, and more about Kiss - (Music From) The Elder at Discogs. Before we get to that, let’s talk packaging. Bath I think “I” is by far the best song on this one and it’s Ace and Gene to a lesser degree who shine most here. I discovered during the junior high school years that other music fans did not share my enthusiasm towards the pop direction the group was headed. Complete your Kiss collection. “We didn’t know which direction to go,” admits Simmons. It was a total trainwreck. Een hoes die niks met kiss te doen had muziek die niks met kiss te doen had teksten die niks met kiss … Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Music from the Elder at Amazon.com. Gegen den Testsieger kam keiner gegen an. That is cool! Nothing was going right. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. Kiss – ‘Music From The Elder’ (1981) – Album Review (The Kiss Review Series) Published on October 15, 2020 October 15, 2020 by 2loud2oldmusic Kiss came off a very successful Australian Tour thanks to Unmasked and the song “Shandi” being huge hits in that country, but in the States, Kiss had floundered significantly. Kiss the elder - Die preiswertesten Kiss the elder unter die Lupe genommen. This was supposed to be the 8th track so completely throws out the storyline by placing it first. The Oath starts with a chunky riff that wouldn’t sound out of place on a Scorpions or Heart album but the vocal melody and Paul Stanley’s falsetto singing in particular doesn’t do anything for me. drone on until the first real song, Just a Boy, kicks in. Welche Kauffaktoren es vor dem Kauf Ihres Kiss the elder zu beachten gibt! It’s too nerdy and arty for regular KISS fans and probably too KISS for true prog fans, but for those who are willing to open their mind and listen to the album for what it is, the rewards are great." “There’s just no other way to look at it.”. 2 - It’s kind of nerdy. “I” See what you did there. “On a mountain high, somewhere / Where only heroes dare / Stand the stallion and the mare”. Next up is “Just a Boy” which opens as an acoustic track and Paul on vocals. They didn’t even tour the U.S. with this album. Unser Team hat verschiedenste Hersteller ausführlichst analysiert und wir zeigen Ihnen hier die Ergebnisse unseres Vergleichs. Fanfare, Just a Boy... (WTF? Daniel Jago Edmonds: I love this album. You can’t blame a band for trying something different, especially when the current thing ain’t working. The band was missing. They quickly washed their hands of it, replaced Ace Frehley with Vinnie Vincent, and started on their journey writing reasonably competent 80s metal radio staples. Apparently Mr. Blackwell is feeling well and honestly, if you are listening to this version of the track sequence, you have no idea who Mr. Blackwell is anyway. Hallo und Herzlich Willkommen zu unserem Test. Expecting a sudden shift in fans’ tastes was perhaps a bit too ambitious. However, Styx were delivering what fans expected: I gather Kiss were not... James Praesto: If you just listen to this album without context, as I am sure most people not familiar with Kiss will do (and understandably so), you will probably scratch your head and wonder what the fuck they were snorting when they recorded this. It has Ace’s guitar sound prominently on it. You’re out of your mind! I like “I” a lot. It isn’t their worst album. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Auf was Sie vor dem Kauf Ihres Kiss the elder achten sollten! Dark Light They were (to my ears) a poor man’s Mott the Hoople – All flash and no bang - playing second rate glam and hiding their mediocre talents behind grease paint and glitter. Just A Boy The record company changed the order of the songs. I tried to do that. Scott Wiemann: Staying away due to the negative press, I have never listened to this album. Roland Bearne: Well, gave it a spin this morning for the first time in a good 20 years and I thought it was terrific! “So we decided to bring Bob Ezrin back.” Ezrin had produced Kiss’ hit 1976 album Destroyer; more recently, he’d worked on Pink Floyd’s mega-selling The Wall. Scott Kevyn Frank: As a new teenager of 13, I didn't quite "get it " when it came out. As a teenage Kiss fan in the late 80s it was like gold dust. If they released the album in 1973, then maybe it would have been better received. The journey we are undertaking here now takes on a more serious note, with the somber A World Without a Heroes. A great part of the album's appeal lies in … In unserer Rangliste finden Sie zuhause tatsächlich ausnahmslos die Produkte, die unseren enorm festgelegten Maßstäben standgehalten haben. Under The Rose was my favourite track on the album, which was greatly done by Gene - as was A World WIthout Heroes. Unfortunately, I always wait for King Arthur and his Monty Python coconut-brigade, questing for the Holy Grail, when I hear this. Apparently, Music From "The Elder" was supposed to be Kiss's attempt at a concept album. Yeah, sure. This album is completely different from KISS' older albums. What I like about this song is actually two things. I could go on and on about what went on behind the scenes, in fact, you could write a book about it. And then... that's where your heartaches begin. It has that rock anthem feel and it rocks out. Thanks for stepping out of the box Kiss. Music from “The Elder” isn't as much a musical flop as it was a poor business decision. It is that order change, that we will discuss because the album I have has the original track listing issued which was arranged by the label. There is a short reprise of “Just a Boy” which is actually a nice touch. Good job, Ace. It's a bit of a convoluted mess, and could have benefited from more Ace Frehley guitar work, but I'll admit to listening to this on a regular basis. View credits, reviews, tracks and shop for the 1989 CD release of (Music From) The Elder on Discogs. The closing track, I, sounds right at home beside Kiss at its anthemic best. I do like this album more than I have in the past because I get it now. I don’t like the fact that the group have pretty much disowned it when there are songs that are very good on it. Almost. I give this an overall score of 3.0 out of 5.0 Stars. Escape From The Island is a rip-snorting instrumental and I coulda shoulda woulda been a classic Kiss anthem – if it were on a different album. Ace sounds like Ace on Dark Light. https://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/kiss/music-from-the-elder-2 I think I liked it more when I thought it was a movie soundtrack. Even the cover mysteriously references Music From…, as if you missed some “straight to VHS”-movie in the vein of Dark Crystal or Krull that this was the faithful soundtrack companion to. The cover of Kiss’ epic folly Music From “The Elder” The story of The Elder, written by Simmons during a stay at the Beverly Hills Hotel, was allegedly a metaphor for good and evil.“The Elder are a life-form without body,” he explains. Carl Lewington: Love, love love this album!! Check out the rest of the series if you have time!! The typical Kiss "edge" is hard to find in The Elder, but it's there, just a little softer at times. Visit our corporate site. Blackwell”. I ended up ordering the cassette through a local record shop. Music From “The Elder” was an art-rock concept album based on a fantasy tale written by Simmons and conceived as the soundtrack to a Hollywood blockbuster. Unser Gewinner sollte im Kiss the elder Test sich gegen die Konkurrenten den Sieg erkämpfen. Here are what seem to be the three major problems with this album: 1 - It’s not what Kiss fans expected. Honestly, Paul is one of my favourite rock and roll voices, but that falsetto on this and Just a Boy is awful. Als Produzent hatte hier Bob Ezrin seine Finger im Spiel, der bereits dem Kiss-Klassiker „Destroyer“ seinen Stempel aufgedrückt hatte und ein Jahr vor „Music From „The Elder““ (also 1979) Pink Floyds „The Wall“ produziert hatte. At the end of the song, we get the only speaking parts from the actors. It took weeks to arrive but finally came in around December of 1989. This album is also significant as it would be the last album Ace Frehley would appear on…musically until the MTV Unplugged album. In January 81, the band had started recording at Ace in the Hole studio at Ace’s house and they were doing much harder, rock recordings. and we get to Escape From The Island. Maybe you can keep us grounded in reality. A fun fact, there was actually a music video recorded for this song but never saw the light of the day. "Simmons and Stanley had high hopes for Music from "The Elder" (such as a movie, an elaborate tour, a follow-up record, etc. You will receive a verification email shortly. After giving it a few listens this week, I know now that this was a mistake. A World Without Heroes Lyrics : 6. It is actually a decent opening track as it does rock out and is quite heavy. Only You Lyrics: 3. Some nice guitar work. England and Wales company registration number 2008885. If Destroyer was their Revolver, maybe Music From "The Elder" could’ve been their Sgt. Mike Knoop: I like Kiss a lot. There were more songs I like then I remembered and I don’t think it is as bad as everyone says or thinks. Elder came on the heels of the KISS disco superfreaks, Dynasty and Unmasked; people believed KISS had committed to that boppy road. No, it isn’t half bad (okay, half of it is bad, but the other half not so much). Bob had come off the success of doing a concept album with a band you might know name Pink Floyd. Please deactivate your ad blocker in order to see our subscription offer, We check over 130 million products every day for the best prices. ), but I came to it with no preconceptions and really liked it. Wider den Sieger kam keiner an. Bei uns wird hoher Wert auf die faire Festlegung des Testverfahrens gelegt sowie der Artikel in der Endphase mit einer finalen Testbewertung bepunktet. Time, almost 34 years now, has healed some of the wounds. “Oh…Fanfare is supposed to be first…”. Ace Frehley leaving the band after this album just proves how awful it was. Change ), You are commenting using your Facebook account. There were no inserts in this album that I am aware. All rights reserved. “Dark Light” was actually based off a guitar riff written by Anton Fig and the demo was called “Don’t Run”. I didn’t see it mentioned (might have missed it) but the remastered CD release has it in the story order. Only You seamlessly bleeds into Under the Rose with such ease that they could almost be the same song. For a band that built its success on simplistic anthems, Kiss's Music From “The Elder” was a huge leap in terms of ambition. Brian Carr: Music from The Elder might be the hardest CRAotW yet for me to review (except for Radiohead, of course). It isn’t much musically, mostly bass and mostly lyrics. Amid this instability, Simmons and guitarist/vocalist Paul Stanley were uncertain of what kind of record Kiss should make after two pop-oriented albums – 1979’s Dynasty and 1980’s Unmasked – had alienated many fans. Escape From the Island Lyrics: 8. More than 30 years later, "Music From The Elder" has attained a cult-classic status among a segment of diehard KISS fans. I can't fault a band for trying, and in retrospect I believe that much of the scorn heaped on this album is due to its commercial failure. Thankfully, the KISS ship would be righted somewhat by the band's next album, Creatures of the Night, which allowed Eric Carr to show people what type of drummer he really was and give Gene Simmons meatier tunes to sink his tongue into. Kiss were so lost at this time of their career after the failures of the pop rock they took on for Dynasty and Unmasked and also Peter Criss leaving the band. Kiss the elder - Betrachten Sie dem Favoriten der Experten. Very interest. But some cool songs though. Kev Hutchins: It's a much more coherent album if you listen to the tracks in the order they were intended to be played, rather than the weird running order that was on the original release. This is the elder era which has a somewhat new sound. As others have said, it doesn’t sound like a Kiss album. Only You I definitely like it better in the in the correct, storyline sequence and I think they need to do a deluxe edition that includes all the spoken work parts that were meant to tie the story together. It’s not the Kiss fans wanted and they rejected it. In some cases (i.e. It sounds like Kiss. At least it's not Crazy Nights or Hot In The Shade. But the movie was never made, and the album was an overblown disaster. Who is Mr. Blackwell? Kiss were all about (to quote one of Paul Stanley's old stage raps) what was in your jeans rather than your genes. There was a problem. Kiss was almost certainly the first band I ever loved. Sounds fine, no problem. There are redeeming moments and perhaps if some of Ezrin’s production was stripped back and more focus on the plot it could have been a decent themed record, but it’s a bit over the map and suffers a bit from Gene’s grandiose plans for a movie to be made. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Nummers "Fanfare" (Paul Stanley, Bob Ezrin)"Just a Boy" (Stanley, Ezrin) Then again, other than Creatures of the Night, and their early stuff, I think that applies to most Kiss albums. Sämtliche in der folgenden Liste getesteten Kiss the elder sind jederzeit auf amazon.de im Lager und dank der schnellen Lieferzeiten in kürzester Zeit vor Ihrer Haustür. Sort of, but not necessarily in good ways. Things were crumbling and the Kiss train was about to come to the end of its tracks…or was it. David Heaton: A very good album. Obviously they were inspired by Bob Ezrin's recent success with The Wall. Jamie Laszlo: If a bunch of 12 year old kids got together and tried to make an album that sounds like The Who's Tommy, it would sound like The Elder. Kiss fans will buy any old tat won't they?!?!? The tempo changes from slow to fast to slow to fast throughout. ( Log Out /  This is the stuff that Spinal Tap was based on. I heard The Oath on the 12” single of Forever (I think) and was desperate to hear the rest of it. I give them kudos for trying to do something different as I think all bands need to shake it up a bit. It is dark and a little eerie. It wouldn’t be a Kiss album (or whatever this is), if we didn’t get one of Gene’s Hey-Hey-Fat-Albert songs. Aye I do, it’s the apple of my eye. Kiss wanted to create a big heavy dark counterpoint to the soft-glow commercial failures of Dynasty and Unmasked. I heard nothing good about it which piqued my interest even more. Although I’d heard of this album I’d never listened to It because I was always told, by Kiss fans, it was rubbish. This is the order of the story. A tour for this record would have been interesting. It is full of orchestration and much…welll…fanfare. Unsere Redakteure haben es uns zur Mission gemacht, Ware aller Variante ausführlichst zu testen, sodass Sie als Kunde unkompliziert den Kiss the elder bestellen können, den Sie als Kunde haben wollen. Yes, the face paint and image were an over riding factor to my early teen ideals in appreciating the band but lets say that in the end, the music never quite managed to match up to how I interpreted the darkness of the image. Jim Kanavy: I became a Kiss fan in the 80s and even by mid 80s like 86/87 this was fairly hard to find. Die Redaktion hat im großen Kiss the elder Vergleich uns jene genialsten Artikel verglichen sowie alle nötigen Eigenschaften gegeneinander. A World Without Heroes ( Log Out /  The song was written by Paul Stanley and his demo was called “Every Little Bit of Your Heart”. Auf welche Faktoren Sie bei der Wahl Ihres Kiss the elder Acht geben sollten. KISS - Music From The Elder (1981, 1997 remaster) Exit Peter Criss. I All from when I was getting into rock music in the early 80s and listening to everything that was recommended to me. Oh wait, he's the Spaceman. Elder, however, is not one of them. In comes producer Bob Ezrin. It did go to #57 on the Billboard charts. You know how people sometimes ask, “What point in history would you go back to, if you could visit any event?” I would travel back to the exact moment Kiss played this song to the label guys at Casablanca. Fortunately, The Oath comes to the rescue, with Paul on one of those horses from Odyssey, galloping fearlessly into battle, wooden sword in hand... or laser rifle... Where are we again? Some more than others, but enjoyed none the less. Blackwell”? Along with Destroyer and Creatures Of The Night it’s one of my favourite Kiss albums. The fans hate it. The chorus has a choir thrown in for good measure. Still, and another plus point, depending on your point of view, it did make me go through Spotify and listen to selected cuts from their back catalogue which I can’t deny brought a wry smile to my face, a few old memories and a wee toast to their undeniable business acumen and charm. Wir haben im großen Kiss the elder Test uns die relevantesten Produkte verglichen und alle brauchbarsten Informationen recherchiert. (Metal Insider). “We were convinced that we were making our Sgt. Gene actually plays bass and rhythm guitar on it and does a great job. Of course, the re-ordering of tracks to emphasise the singles when first released messed up the narrative, and I would love to hear the spoken word passages recorded by Christopher Makepeace but not used. It feels all Broadway and over-the-top and if that was what they were going for then they succeeded. Eric Mehta: It rates a ten for me, however at the time I had the 'what the hell is this?' When the album was done and the song order was complete, the record company heard the album and probably shit a brick. This is likely the intention based on the subject matter, but once again, this doesn’t really seem to satisfy what should make a Kiss album. "It's certainly a shock when you first put it on," producer Bob Ezrin said of the LP back in 1981. The album marked a substantial departure from their previous output with its concept and orchestral elements. Overall I'd give it a C-. A World Without Heroes – a Gene Simmons power ballad. ( Log Out /  I think the thing that upset people most is that it's not a 'Kiss' album. Odyssey, especially grates on me lyrically. Worse, shortly before the album was released in November 1981, the track sequence was altered, rendering an already garbled storyline incomprehensible. In 1981 I was 12 years old and firmly entrenched as a Kiss fan since the Love Gun album and they were my first band that I picked on my own. Then I realised it was just another album and I was like awwww, dammit. Everyone hates Music from The Elder. For his part, Simmons is still embarrassed by the whole fiasco. Then we get the one Ace song, “Dark Light”. Nine albums that could have been condensed to 4-5 really awesome records. Ace’s Dark Light is the standout track, with quite possibly the best solo he’s ever pulled off. Somit ordnen wir beim Test eine möglichst hohe Anzahl an Eigenarten in das Endergebniss mit rein. Future Publishing Limited Quay House, The Ambury, Kiss the elder - Alle Auswahl unter der Menge an verglichenenKiss the elder . For me, only 4 songs are keepers. This is one of the better tracks. He delivers the lyrics with such conviction and poise, that you for a moment forget you are beyond confused about the story itself. Well, much of it doesn’t. Kiss in all their make up but with short hair, Mark Knopfler head bands and the most camp costumes. After all, what is a bell that never rings? So?!? I wish I knew, because the massively downtuned bass and creepy vocal delivery by Simmons make it my favourite song. Although the album was a little all over the place, it was went out with a bang. When I finally found it I liked it. Long story short, the three main take aways for me from the experience were - firstly, this is not the Kiss I know or recognise, which in itself is not a bad thing, what band wants to retread the same album throughout their career? Unsere Redaktion begrüßt Sie zu unserem Test. It is not his best song, but one of the better songs on the album for me at least. But in the end, the movie got lost in “development hell”. (Rolling Stone), "This album wasn’t for everyone, including Kiss. Change ). It’s not to say that rock doesn’t have its place for nerdy music - Rush and Weezer are prime examples. Actually sung by Gene and a song the band has been known to play in their acoustic sets. Kiss - Music From "The Elder" (Remastered) Album Lyrics; 1. It is a high energy track that rocks out and is the big chance for Eric to shine and be front and center. The music is totally uncharacteristic of Kiss -- it resembles heavy prog rock for the most part. There was no way to determine the concept of this album with the songs being in the order they were in. Sign up below to get the latest from Classic Rock, plus exclusive special offers, direct to your inbox! © I don’t want to sound like this album has no redeeming qualities. A powerful-ish instrumental with an intense and purposeful beat. Songs like Just a Boy, The Oath, Only You, Odyssey, A World Without Heroes, and I are excellent songs. But, unfortunately none of that is enough to redeem what to me is essentially not a very good album. Selbstverständlich ist jeder Kiss the elder jederzeit bei Amazon auf Lager und kann sofort bestellt werden. Die besten 10: Kiss the elder im Angebot - Produkte im Test. It almost sounds live or at least should be played live. The album was a gatefold and inside was another medieval looking table and chairs with a candle in the middle. Enough chatter, let us get to the music and the reason we are here. A sci-fi/fantasy concept was as far away from Kiss's comfort zone as it's possible to get. It will grow on you if you let… Crazy. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. The album opens with “The Oath” which is a more metal song and actually had Paul singing in a falsetto which is not his strong part. A Kodak moment, kids, if there ever was one. The Oath, Mr Blackwell and I, have some semblance of the band I recognise, along with Dark Light. The Cover – ‘(I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction’. That is all I can come up with (Ha!!). I've certainly heard worse things. The image was outweighing the music and they suffered their first member defection. But listening to it out of context and not as a part of the Kiss canon, it isn’t terrible. Overall it’s not the worst album out there. I suppose this crap-sterpiece of an album deserves better now, in retrospect. “They are benevolent, but committed to the balance of opposites. The song gets a little heavier and Paul sings in more falsetto and is all completely strange. They turned it in to this song to fit the story. Here is the real order the album was to be played in…. The album was ‘The Wall”. I still have them. Oct 17, 2012 - KISS' 1981 concept album "Music From The Elder" bombed when it was first released, but has developed a cult following over time. It doesn’t sound like Ace is on lead, but he does play bass actually. I’ve always heard Music from “The Elder” is bad, so I’ve never given it a listen until now. it just wasn't a "Kiss" album. After having written off Kiss as pure pap for eight-year-olds, who even wants to think about taking them seriously? Nice job, My man Matt (gig buddy and featured in many an SFTD post) is obsessed with The Elder and it rubs off. And when they started drifting musically, my good old uncle gave me all of his Kiss albums. (Well they tried disco! Unser Team hat eine große Auswahl an Marken ausführlichst getestet und wir zeigen Ihnen als Leser hier die Ergebnisse unseres Vergleichs. Music From “The Elder” was an art-rock concept album based on a fantasy tale written by Simmons and conceived as the soundtrack to a Hollywood blockbuster. As mentioned in several of your posts, the press shredded it, the band shoved it in the corner, along with many, many fans. Anyway, the spectacle is over. Kiss started recording for a new album and this album was going to get back to the hard rock roots of the band, however, things started to change. Finally we get a Gene song called “Only You” which is a perfect sounding Gene song. Hell hath no fury like a music fan scorned. It ain't that bad, but ain't that faint praise? And someone actually did so I will review that book later, but here we are going to get the condensed version. Kiss: The Elder, Volume One by Amy Chu My rating: 4 of 5 stars I was provided an eARC of this title from the publisher through NetGalley, in exchange for an honest review. Long story short - the album is not a total disaster! Yet their new songs are catchy, the performances respectable, and, despite its concept, Music from “The Elder” is better than anything that the group has recorded in years." Great stuff at digging out the KISS facts and incorporating them into this post. I’m not a huge fan of Kiss, so I’ve never really even considered it. KISS hates it. It will always be one of those albums I put on at Christmas time. I’m Impressed! First, there was the over-exposure, the sheer arrogance of releasing literally millions of the four simultaneous solo albums, which served heavy duty in cut-out bins for years afterwards. You can find a loyal geeky contingent online and in the darker regions of KISS-dom that sing its praises. The KISS RE-REVIEW SERIES Part 20: – Music From the Elder (1981 Casablanca, 1997 Mercury remaster, 2014 Universal vinyl) Kiss had gone as far as they could go in the pop direction that they travelled on Unmasked. It’s art, and as such, it has a tendency to evolve. Despite their geekiness, some tracks like I and Under the Rose have some really great licks in them.

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